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Title: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: xblackbladex on December 25, 2012, 12:44 am
He is the biggest benzo scammer on the road, selling the fakest alprazolam product, yet he somehow is the highest seller with the biggest reputation? What the F*ck is the deal here? 4mg of real xanax gets me good. I took 100mg of his and didn't feel a thing. I have a buddy that I tried it with who is a full member on the road that can back me up on this. SHUT HIM DOWN.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: IamOliver on December 25, 2012, 09:07 am
If Oliver wasn't fake he would just give us a sample of his handwriting. All he has to do is write Oliver on a piece of paper and put it on Tor. Then we can all compare it to all the other handwriting of the real Oliver that has his listings up.

Simple. If he want's to prove himself then it takes minutes.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on December 25, 2012, 01:57 pm
Iamoliver whats the diffrence in the Aplro powder or simply crushing down the pills into the powder? One has some type cut to it and one does not?
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on December 25, 2012, 02:27 pm
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

I have two alprazolam's here to compare side by side and the other one is definitely fake unfortunately (different vendor), and there is a marked difference in the consistency of the two.

I remember bringing up, in private with someone I think (cuz my order came with a bunch of crushed pills *shrug*, which I had to convince him SO hard that it didn't bother me at all, half the work in bustin em up was already done :D.  These were opiates, so I insufflate them, not benzo's, which you do not insufflate) just how easy it would be for someone to grind up bars, or for that matter any drug (oxycodone powder anyone?  Haven't seen it on the road,  but imagine it wouldn't be a difficult scam to pull off as long as their either OCs, or something like percs (which I should note would be particularly despicable because you'd be selling large quantities of APAP without the user ever knowing).

It's made me lose most hope in powdered pharmaceutical's even though legit ones are AWESOME.  I also had the vendor Winston ... something scam me out of a 2g diazepam (valium) powder order I had placed with him.  Fortunately I (as everyone should) stayed in escrow, had an overwhelming amount of evidence that this was most likely a scam and was subsequently given a 100% refund by SR resolutions quite promptly actually.  I dunno, it's bizarre, it seems this powdered pharm. market went from being a fuck my mother this is a god send to a full out scam with vendor's even wasting our time trying to prove that someone else stole his supply and is selling it to us, even though the only evidence he's asking for is if the guys signature (real written signature) proves he's a different man.  But he does NOTHING to try and prove that someone actually stole his supply lol.  So what if buddy isn't you, he's been serving member's of the road well and has as far as I know exemplary feedback. 

Least you could do is try and form some sort of argument on finding evidence that he stole from you if you want our pity or whatever the fuck it is you're trying to gain out of all this nonsense.

I hope we can turn this back around and have some of the great vendor's come round with supplies of powdered pharmaceuticals so that we don't have to deal with this ever increasing bullshit scamming that's coming from selling powdered pharms.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Oliver on December 25, 2012, 02:55 pm
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

Quinone, you're completely right! Alprazolam should have an off-white, clumpy consistency.  Recently, for stealth, we've been mashing that stuff into a fine powder.  If you'd like to see some more of the un-crushed stuff (flat packages are very stealthy) give me a shout and I'll prove to you that it's the same beautiful pure alprazolam
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: xblackbladex on December 25, 2012, 03:00 pm
He even gave me a full refund just because he could not provide proof that his product is real. I took 100mg of it and did not feel a thing. I've been strangely lethargic and have been memory lapses the past couple of days and I'm almost scared what kind of chemical he really sent me.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on December 25, 2012, 04:05 pm
Regardless of all the thing's said in my last post, I do want to get 1-2g alprazolam powder (the hygroscropic 'clumpy as you put it', offwhite and insanely bitter taste alprazolam, aka the real mccoy :).  My supply is running low.

Though alprazolam is WAY down on my list of benzos (aka I don't like it much heh) I still find myself using it, and shit goes fast when you're .. irresponsible haha.

Sadly I don't have nearly enough money to make 1 gram purchase and anything less isn't worthwhile to me.

So basically there is no point to this post except for me to bitch lol, but hopefully there's still some REAL (hygroscropic, off white, etc.) alprazolam on the road a while from now.

If you want to send me a point or two for a comprehensive review I would certainly not be opposed (LOL i'm such a slimebag when it comes to trying to get things haha).

The one thing though that does bug me is that I want to buy some of this powder from the various (well 2 atm as far as I know right now) to compare and make sure/see period if it's legit quality.  I'd also like to take a pic of genuine alprazolam vs. fake alprazolam to post a link to here so that potential alprazolam buyer's KNOW that what they're buying is legit.

It is Christmas day though, wanna give me a deal? HAHA (sorry I know, I have no shame ... but least I am actually for real trying to help, i'd like ppl to know what real alprazolam looks like cuz it's not just a plain white powder). 

I got ripped for 5g of a fake alprazolam purchase, but the subsequent purchase I made from Oliver (whoever that Oliver was at the time, don't really care who the person is, just their product lol) was most definitely legit and high quality alprazolam, so even though I lost quite a bit of money, I at least ended up with genuine product at the end of the day which padded my anger a bit heh.

Anyways, enough silly chit chat.

Have a Merry Christmas Everyone !!!  Hope Santa brought you lot's of drug's (we all know he's a coke or meth fiend, I mean how else can he deliver that many presents in such  a short period of time, now that's dedications :P ).

PS: For the absolute literal of you, I do not believe in Santa Claus and it was a joke, heh.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on December 25, 2012, 06:45 pm
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

Quinone, you're completely right! Alprazolam should have an off-white, clumpy consistency.  Recently, for stealth, we've been mashing that stuff into a fine powder.  If you'd like to see some more of the un-crushed stuff (flat packages are very stealthy) give me a shout and I'll prove to you that it's the same beautiful pure alprazolam

Please, dear, sweet, baby Jebus let this be legit.   I have read so much and heard so many things from so many different accounts that it's difficult to know what to think. Currently searching for a test.

I have done a few searches, but I'm having trouble finding anything on purchasing a test kit for the powder before ingestion.  Tasting it is recommended(bluelight), but not sure I'm comfortable with that, I like what's left of my brain.

Anyone know where I can pick one up, stateside? Do I have to go find a microscope? :P

Hopefully, the test can speak for the product, and the product will speak for him.

OT: A good friend of a good friend was just busted for a few different things b/c they were getting MJ seeds through the mail and security wasn't the best(color barrier). His family is going through absolute hell right now b/c of it. 

Glad to see you're worried about the safety of your customers and yourself, Oliver.  Proactive vendors with tight security make this place worth every penny.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Jemeson on December 31, 2012, 07:15 am
It's funny quinone is the only one defending Oliver. Personally I don't give a fuck that Oliver has raised his prices. I'm going where the real Alprazolam Powder is. Arn0ld - trusted, tried, approved.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: nomad bloodbath on December 31, 2012, 07:18 am
Benzos cut with opiates I've heard it all now. :P



Sorry guys but with a 99.6% which =100 rep and over 300 transaction the problem might be you.
X)
nomad
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Jemeson on December 31, 2012, 07:27 am
Nomad. Why do you think all the sudden there are a ton of people not happy with his product? Obviously he's cutting it or getting it from a different source that sucks dick. You say he has a 100% rating - I guess we'll see how long that lasts. Well it looks like people are starting to catch on. Not less than an hour after you wrote that his rating is at a 99%. Sorry Nomad. But the Road is changing and Oliver doesn't have his perfect hook up Happy12345 fucked for him because of what he "supposedly" did - not my territory and not my place to get into.

Also whoever is saying he's cutting it with opiates are idiots. Cutting your product with opiates would cost a FORTUNE! He's just cutting it with the same old shit you cut any drug with - if he's cutting it. If it's another source it's either not Alprazolam or it's cut as a mother fucker.

Personally I believe people are so pussy whooped over Oliver that they won't give him a bad review cause of the scary ass BLACKLIST. But like I said that's a changing. Plus he's good at reimbursing which I give him major props.

Well anyways guess what. New Vendor. MUCH better Powder. You still want to figure out if you taking Alprazolam then go for it. As for me. I have a pretty damn good idea where I am going. I'm going to take Alprazolam. Whether I take my script or the powder, it makes no difference. It's all the same.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Jemeson on December 31, 2012, 08:20 am
First contact Oliver. According to what I've heard he's good about giving most refunds back. But not all. If that doesn't work go to Admin - but that's the last resort. They don't get involved in disputes if at all possible. Here's to hoping it works out!
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: nomad bloodbath on December 31, 2012, 09:02 am
Guys you are free to edit your feedback to reflect your experience I advise you do that to get his attention.
You don't like his product so fuck his little blacklist, do I seem scared of it, there's dozen's of those powdered bullshit vendors.
Don't let him just keep his 5/5's make him own up to either cutting it of recently receiving a different product.

I also meant to sayt he opiate theory made my night.
X)
nomad
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: flaxceed on December 31, 2012, 09:35 am
I just marked my alprazolam pills down to $119 per hundred plus SR commission.  These are 100% legit Thai FDA and I have a long history selling here on Silk Road, Black Market Reloaded, and bitcointalk.org.  Check me out!
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on December 31, 2012, 10:07 am
i enjoy how he responds to his, but not to his product review.  intaresting.  the truth will be known soon enough.  second time letting oliver know

i can gc/sm for you.  i can provide another seller here the gcsm results.  second time mentioning this.  interesting u have not inquired. 
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Arn0ld on December 31, 2012, 10:43 am
God man I'd love for you to do tests. The only thing I would need to know is how I would know they are legitimate. If they are legit then I have NOTHING to hide and it would only help my business Please get back to me so we can figure something out!
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: le botbahn on December 31, 2012, 02:26 pm
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

^This. That's how mine looks. And how it should look, from what I understand.
It's a blessing to have access to this and other pharms, but I gotta say, alprazolam is one of the most difficult powders I've handled! Very tough to estimate what you have before putting on the scale. And it sticks anything you scoop it with. And the slightest draft or breath in the wrong direction? Woof! Goodbye 20 doses! :)
 


I have no idea if Oliver's Alprazolam is truly legit or not. Lacking GC/MS access and all that fancy analytical equipment, all I can do is compare it to the Merck Manual, etc., as well as my limited experience with xanax and the feedback from the more exprienced people I presented it to.

Physically, it looks, tastes, and behaves the part according to the limited published reference data. I've searched far and wide for additional solubility info, most of the results being anecdotal but convincing. Don't have the source, but I read someone used 100% Ethanol for a maximum of 20 mg/ml. I tried it with 91% IPA. It took some heat but it worked just fine. It's soluble in Vegetable Glyerine, though I can't say to what degree (I was just fiddling around, but from that it seemed quite soluble). Water? Nope. This fits the profile.

Effects? Prior to ordering, I tried Xanax XR a few times. About a year ago I discovered the wonders of Klonopin (clonazepam) and it's a drug I cherish for it's therapeutic effects. Maligan (awesome vendor) hooked up a few Xanax XRs with an order when I expressed interest trying xanax. They seemed to ok, but having only 5 it's hard to get a good feel for a drug (plus I partied hard most of those days). I'd been interested in Oliver's stuff for a few months and as Klonopin prices increased, I took the leap.

When it arrived, I toothpicked my first sample sublingually. I was new to xanax so I felt a calming senastion roll through my body immediately. I felt at total ease. i look a bit more. Effects increased a bit more. And as they should, the effects were no longer noticeable a few hours later.

Later I made some volumetric doses. I experimented all that week on myself, and others (xanax vetrans and naive individuals). All those with xanax experience said it felt just like xanax. For the naive, 0.5 mg was often too heavy (which was true for me as well).

For the past 2 months I've used Oliver's xanax daily using tightly controlled volumetric dosing (liquid, blotter, candy, etc). No issues, no problematic rise in tolerance, no blackout, no accidents, no falls. No automobile accidents.

I take it for my own general anxiety primarily, and also to take the edge of when I use stimulants, and occasionally in higher doses (2-5 mg) as a sleep aid.

From day 1, the product I received works the way that Alprazolam is supposed to work. I don't find it very recreational (that goes for any benzo and I don't understand the appeal there), but it is definitely therapeutic (my reason for having it).

If you do some searching you'll find individual preference for alprazolam vs. clonazepam varies widely in terms of anxiolytic effects. Proabably 50/50 split. I remain in the clonazepam group. For me alprazolam falls short in anxioltyic effects. Their not missing, just short lived. But that's the nature of alprazolam. It's short lived. So this to me is expected.

Anxiolytic effects aside, it calms me down and quick. I've learned my limits determined my optimal dosing. 0.25 mg 3-4 x daily goes over well. 1.0 mg or more, I'm getting sleepy. 2.0 mg +, I'm going down. Weed + any amount= better set that alarm.

Overall, I'm pleased with the powder I received from Oliver. It's been over two months, I have over have of my gram left, dosed daily, and shared with some close friends who have all enjoyed. For me, it isn't a clonazepam substitute, but it's served me well and something I'd like to always have on hand. I have no reason to believe it's anything other than alprazolam, nor do the folks I've shared with who use Rx xanax on the regular for years.


I've ordered from Oliver once and my experience happended to be good. I have no clue if these scam reports are true or not. I'll admit some of this underlying story is interesting but it is what it is, whatever it is.

But for those calling scam, I genuinely wonder how many of you are just "eyeball" this stuff and therefore talking completely out your ass. If you're not using this stuff properly by accurate dosing...then your opinion is not valid and you are not to be taken seriously. My scale ALWAYS proves me wrong when I guestimate this stuff. Every single time. Whether it's Oliver, Arn0ld, Costco, etc. IMO, any buyer claiming bunk on any of these products has no business talking trash if their eyeballing. You can't eyeball alrazolam folks. It's impossible.

And about this controversy drama, IMO there could be several alprazolam vendors and you'd have plenty of customers. Just like every other comodity on SR. Personally, I'd like to see MORE VARIETY pharma grade powders (or even high quality clandestine grade) available in personal quantities. I'd love some clonazepam, nitrazepam, ambien, tadalifil, tramadol, dexedrine, MUSCE RELAXERS, and many more. Variety sounds like a winning strategy and I'd love to see it. It's crazy that I had these connects myself direct from China over a decade ago (lost contact since), I don't even remember why or how despite being a nobody, yet raw pharms and such things severely lack as far as I can tell here on this global market place, which back then was unimaginable. And the Chinese markert greyer that ever. I'd love to see more raw pharms and less shitty RCs.


...just how easy it would be for someone to grind up bars, or for that matter any drug (oxycodone powder anyone?  Haven't seen it on the road,  but imagine it wouldn't be a difficult scam to pull off as long as their either OCs, or something like percs (which I should note would be particularly despicable because you'd be selling large quantities of APAP without the user ever knowing).red pharms.

Interesting point. This is unrelated to Oliver/Benzos, but I recently noticed an odd pattern and some discrepencies leading to strong suspicions that an unrelated vendor (stim market) may be up to something similar to this (ie- extracting a compound from pills and selling the pure extracted compound, which they claim to synthesize themselves- which is a rarity in general and unprecedented on SR, and it lends alot of credibility to that individual as a chemist). It seems counterintuitive at first from a monetary perspective *unless* they also happen to offer "consult/custom synthesis" as one of their services :) I really hope my suspicions are wrong there. But until the quantities and availablility of that product grows beyond that of a monthly prescription... I have my fingers crossed but I'm watching.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: starchild on December 31, 2012, 02:34 pm
I HAVE to weigh in on this.

Late Nov. I purchased 1/4G of Oliver's "pure powder", because before that his blotters were great. Now, without giving too much away I have access to very accurate scales due to my studies at my university (Chem major).

(Quick background: I've used Xanax for years. I've taken 2-4mg's a day without having any problems whatsoever. EVER.)

Well, took 2mg in the morning, then 2 more in the afternoon of Oliver's "product", and woke up 2 days later in a Psych Ward. Apparently (and keep in mind, I had no other substances in me at the time), my toxicology report came back with Xanax, ECSTACY, and AMPHETAMINES.

When they read that off to me and asked how often I do ecstacy I just kind of stared at him for a moment and said "seriously?". Never done the stuff.

TL;DR - Fuck Oliver and his "legit" powder. He sold me some laced bullshit that, as the doctors put it, could have given me a stroke. I would not recommend buying from him. My 2 cents, you can believe it or not, but my personal experience is to never, EVER consider using that piece of shit again.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on December 31, 2012, 03:29 pm
You can't use GC/MS (NOT GC/SM ! rofl), NMR or HPLC to 'prove' to anybody that

a. It's your product
b. !!!! It's your spectrum !!!!

I can go and ask any number of chemical vendor's for the spectrum they obtained to quantify their claims of purity, open it up in paint, rewrite the date it was done, and even go as arrogant as changing the operator's name to something like Arn0ld and claim it was my spectrum.

Only way for a chemist who outsources their quantification (which is almost zero chemists ... what lab doesn't have an HPLC in it, or an adjacent lab that will let you use theirs?) is to have the analysis sent back to you in a sealed envelope with a bar code or such on your spectrum that matches the quantification you ordered from said company on your private account with them.

Even then there is no reliability in this, we don't use GC/MS, NMR, or HPLC as methods to prove to many many strangers who are going to eat our chemicals (which for the record most chemist shun from having done with their product ... unless your a food chemist) to prove to non-chemist's that they are eating a purified compound.  We use them to determine yield and make changes to our synthetic pathway's, etc.

Only way to prove your product is to NOT make messages in your competitor's threads; sell your product as normal; and let people's feedback speak itself.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: le botbahn on December 31, 2012, 06:02 pm
I HAVE to weigh in on this.

Late Nov. I purchased 1/4G of Oliver's "pure powder", because before that his blotters were great. Now, without giving too much away I have access to very accurate scales due to my studies at my university (Chem major).

(Quick background: I've used Xanax for years. I've taken 2-4mg's a day without having any problems whatsoever. EVER.)

Well, took 2mg in the morning, then 2 more in the afternoon of Oliver's "product", and woke up 2 days later in a Psych Ward. Apparently (and keep in mind, I had no other substances in me at the time), my toxicology report came back with Xanax, ECSTACY, and AMPHETAMINES.

When they read that off to me and asked how often I do ecstacy I just kind of stared at him for a moment and said "seriously?". Never done the stuff.

TL;DR - Fuck Oliver and his "legit" powder. He sold me some laced bullshit that, as the doctors put it, could have given me a stroke. I would not recommend buying from him. My 2 cents, you can believe it or not, but my personal experience is to never, EVER consider using that piece of shit again.

Bullshit dude. i concluded you're full off sit with the "without giving too much away I have access to lab scales".  As if there isn't hundreds of labs at thousand of universities and gov intuitions with scales. i bet you usex it correctly
Ppanonymize your fictional tox teport and upload please.
If there was amp or md on this my bag would
 would been looong gone ;) But its not.


consider this: you work on a lab. why you lack your own scale and insist on risking your own career is dumb and odd. if you work in a lab you should understand how practicle and sensible volumetric dosing is. unless you're a freshmsn undergrad maybe.

And for fuck sake mate, you woke up 2 days later in a psych ward. that didn't just happen from 4 mg xanny, amp, or mdxx. the amp and mdxx should have cleared by then, especially at a '4 mg ' dose. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that 4 mg Amp +MD total would even register on a.yox screen. any idea what tom place between point A and B? maybe you sampled some of the lab goodies with your leery inhibitions? ive been blessed with those opportunitied before. try a little lab grade meth, mdma, ket, benzo you have and haven't heard of. I'd sure as hell do it if my inhibitions were down.

Or perhaps you partied one of those night you don't  recall. Drop some E maybe? i knew folks that did some odd things on Bezos. I'm no exception.

logic says your clsims are unfounded 99.8:0.2 not in your favor, as well as some off the funniest clams I've seen, but thanks for the
no mrmory remember 2 days? You wouldn't bee the fist individual to have anterograde amnesia where they did did crazy shit.
I'm told I pissesed on my gf snd another time burned all of my dress pants & socks in a fire one night in front of a dozen friends.
Hilarious I'm told, but I don't recall it at all.

Also, amp and mdxx would be the must retarded cut imagineable and not economical...NOR DO THEY RESEME ALLRAZ. AT ALL.
 Come on dude, try harder.
Do some reagent tests before looking like a moron next time.

Or, send it to me for analysys. I'd actually beer excited to receive it. My 3 fav drugs all in one!
But really, your full of shit and you know it. Amps and mdma. lol.
Still, I'll be happy to take the good times of your hands. i combine then frequently and handle myself. As i type (which is hard on a tablet no mater what) i am on:
2.5 mg Oliver's Alpraz, desoxyephedrine, another 2mg of alpraz soon, snd if things go my way, mdma will be in my system later.

Try to be more clever. Say its flunitrazeoam mixed with phenezepam and datura. That might fit your stupid story and you might even bee taken remotely seriously

i bet you funny know how to use pgp either. that's how dumb you sound.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: starchild on December 31, 2012, 06:42 pm
Thanks for the long block of text. As stated, I don't care whether you believe my story or not. If I were to black out, and continue to consume the substance (which I did-during the daylight hours), then yes I think my toxicology report would show what I ingested.

Secondly, I don't "party", I don't really have time for that with my life schedule.

And lastly, even if I didn't own my own metric gram scale, anyone who knows how to go to Amazon can buy out outright. Anyone with even a high school understanding of measurement can accurately weigh out 1 gram of anything unless they're missing their frontal lobe.

This was MY experience with this vendor and his wares. Not yours. Sorry I rubbed a sore spot by talking about a bad life experience brought on by a mysterious white powder bought anonymously on the internet.

*Thought I should edit so there is less flame from your next post. Obviously Xanax causes memory loss. My problem was that what I consumed wasn't PURE xanax powder. The only reason I can say i've done X in my life now is because of this "PURE" powder.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: loniax on December 31, 2012, 07:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IloPdizW8CU
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on December 31, 2012, 07:36 pm
Thanks for the long block of text. As stated, I don't care whether you believe my story or not. If I were to black out, and continue to consume the substance (which I did-during the daylight hours), then yes I think my toxicology report would show what I ingested.

Secondly, I don't "party", I don't really have time for that with my life schedule.

And lastly, even if I didn't own my own metric gram scale, anyone who knows how to go to Amazon can buy out outright. Anyone with even a high school understanding of measurement can accurately weigh out 1 gram of anything unless they're missing their frontal lobe.

This was MY experience with this vendor and his wares. Not yours. Sorry I rubbed a sore spot by talking about a bad life experience brought on by a mysterious white powder bought anonymously on the internet.

*Thought I should edit so there is less flame from your next post. Obviously Xanax causes memory loss. My problem was that what I consumed wasn't PURE xanax powder. The only reason I can say i've done X in my life now is because of this "PURE" powder.

Just about everything you said there is correct and wow does it make you look ever the more fool.

The one thing your correct on and I dunno wtf the other guy is smoking is that a tox screen will show any amphetamine analogs up to 7 days after consumption in your blood.  If your in the hospital they aren't taking your urine to test you !!!   It'll stay in your hair for over a month.

"Anyone with even a high school understanding of measurement can accurately weigh out 1 gram"
It's FAR more challenging to measure out A THOUSANDTH OF A GRAM.  Did you actually eat 1 gram of Alprazolam (Xanax)?  If you did, well that's why you fucked yourself up the ass HARD.  If you think it's just as easy to measure 1g as it is to measure 1ug well ... that's why you fucked yourself up the ass HARD !

BTW if you're gonna keep talking about this in a clinical sense stop mother fucking calling it XANAX.  It's ALPRAZOLAM you are consuming fool, Xanax is a brand name for Alprazolam *fucking facepalm*

Doesn't sound to me like you bought laced alprazolam at all.  Sounds like some pretty pure alprazolam (xanax) actuallly, and that you eyeballed alprazolam not knowing it works on the SUB MICROGRAM scale.  Then you blacked out obviously because you fucking eye-balled 2 MICROGRAMS, then you recklessly consumed a number of drugs that landed you into the hospital, and to justify your own stupidity, you blamed it on what you claim to be laced alprazolam, but which actually sounds like pure unadulterated alprazolam.

R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y  KID !!!!
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: AnonEmouse on December 31, 2012, 08:21 pm
all i know , is oliver sold me the xanax blotters , that were pretty much the greatest thing of all time !   i hope he offers them again soon someday  !  and yes . when i ordered . it was at the beginning of who is the real slim shady  b.s.   .. and .. i have nothing but 10/5 for him
i'd like to try this powder .but im afraid to without a scale . id black my ass out for sure otherwise . i'd get a scale . but .. mine broke and fuck it ..  i'd rather get drugs :P
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: 10 on January 01, 2013, 06:26 am
Looks like Oliver isn't getting away with anything! His ratings are plummeting and the forms are swarmed with people pissed they got fucked - including me.

Oliver you once had the shit. Now you are shit.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on January 01, 2013, 06:08 pm
Disclaimer:  Just woke up and haven't read all this BS, still pretty f-ed up from last night but I do mean this shit.

No offense to any individual, but some of you are:
1: Fucking Crazy
2: Scammers trying to get free shit
3: Competition trying(rather pathetically) to run him out of business.
4: or maybe just sheep, jumping on what you think is the right bandwagon.

Either I'm the ONLY one that got the pure stuff, or you guys are totally FOS.  And I truly mean no offense, but you peeps are confused.

I'm no spring chicken and have had my run with Onax Xanees and others as well, great Rolls and a few RC's.

Not to mention the hours I spent researching the pure powder and what it should be like. 

What I got from Oliver looks like, tastes like, FEELS like and most importantly SELLS LIKE ***NOTHING*** but pure Alaprozam.

I paid rent AND partied like a beast last night, WHILE having people thanking me over and over for the hook up.  That shit felt great.

*******This is ALL thanks to Oliver. ********

You can lick my delicious asshole if you want to try to bring him down, cause until the day he screws me and mine over, I got this dudes' back.

LONG LIVE FAKE OLIVER!! LONG LIVE THE ROAD!!!

And naw, don't need to clarify that the haters can go fuck themselves cause my shits going good enough right now that I wish you all the best. just GTFO, you're not wanted here.

I'm starting to think Big Pharma doesn't like Oli too much. lol Those are the only wankers I can see putting this much effort into these threats/threads.

Later, wankers.
*****Spreads arms, tilts head back and waits for the glorious -1's******
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: xblackbladex on January 01, 2013, 06:26 pm
I'm hitting up Arn0ld soon, I haven't heard a single complaint about him yet.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on January 01, 2013, 06:29 pm
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

^This. That's how mine looks. And how it should look, from what I understand.
It's a blessing to have access to this and other pharms, but I gotta say, alprazolam is one of the most difficult powders I've handled! Very tough to estimate what you have before putting on the scale. And it sticks anything you scoop it with. And the slightest draft or breath in the wrong direction? Woof! Goodbye 20 doses! :)
 


I have no idea if Oliver's Alprazolam is truly legit or not. Lacking GC/MS access and all that fancy analytical equipment, all I can do is compare it to the Merck Manual, etc., as well as my limited experience with xanax and the feedback from the more exprienced people I presented it to.

Physically, it looks, tastes, and behaves the part according to the limited published reference data. I've searched far and wide for additional solubility info, most of the results being anecdotal but convincing. Don't have the source, but I read someone used 100% Ethanol for a maximum of 20 mg/ml. I tried it with 91% IPA. It took some heat but it worked just fine. It's soluble in Vegetable Glyerine, though I can't say to what degree (I was just fiddling around, but from that it seemed quite soluble). Water? Nope. This fits the profile.

Effects? Prior to ordering, I tried Xanax XR a few times. About a year ago I discovered the wonders of Klonopin (clonazepam) and it's a drug I cherish for it's therapeutic effects. Maligan (awesome vendor) hooked up a few Xanax XRs with an order when I expressed interest trying xanax. They seemed to ok, but having only 5 it's hard to get a good feel for a drug (plus I partied hard most of those days). I'd been interested in Oliver's stuff for a few months and as Klonopin prices increased, I took the leap.

When it arrived, I toothpicked my first sample sublingually. I was new to xanax so I felt a calming senastion roll through my body immediately. I felt at total ease. i look a bit more. Effects increased a bit more. And as they should, the effects were no longer noticeable a few hours later.

Later I made some volumetric doses. I experimented all that week on myself, and others (xanax vetrans and naive individuals). All those with xanax experience said it felt just like xanax. For the naive, 0.5 mg was often too heavy (which was true for me as well).

For the past 2 months I've used Oliver's xanax daily using tightly controlled volumetric dosing (liquid, blotter, candy, etc). No issues, no problematic rise in tolerance, no blackout, no accidents, no falls. No automobile accidents.

I take it for my own general anxiety primarily, and also to take the edge of when I use stimulants, and occasionally in higher doses (2-5 mg) as a sleep aid.

From day 1, the product I received works the way that Alprazolam is supposed to work. I don't find it very recreational (that goes for any benzo and I don't understand the appeal there), but it is definitely therapeutic (my reason for having it).

If you do some searching you'll find individual preference for alprazolam vs. clonazepam varies widely in terms of anxiolytic effects. Proabably 50/50 split. I remain in the clonazepam group. For me alprazolam falls short in anxioltyic effects. Their not missing, just short lived. But that's the nature of alprazolam. It's short lived. So this to me is expected.

Anxiolytic effects aside, it calms me down and quick. I've learned my limits determined my optimal dosing. 0.25 mg 3-4 x daily goes over well. 1.0 mg or more, I'm getting sleepy. 2.0 mg +, I'm going down. Weed + any amount= better set that alarm.

Overall, I'm pleased with the powder I received from Oliver. It's been over two months, I have over have of my gram left, dosed daily, and shared with some close friends who have all enjoyed. For me, it isn't a clonazepam substitute, but it's served me well and something I'd like to always have on hand. I have no reason to believe it's anything other than alprazolam, nor do the folks I've shared with who use Rx xanax on the regular for years.


I've ordered from Oliver once and my experience happended to be good. I have no clue if these scam reports are true or not. I'll admit some of this underlying story is interesting but it is what it is, whatever it is.

But for those calling scam, I genuinely wonder how many of you are just "eyeball" this stuff and therefore talking completely out your ass. If you're not using this stuff properly by accurate dosing...then your opinion is not valid and you are not to be taken seriously. My scale ALWAYS proves me wrong when I guestimate this stuff. Every single time. Whether it's Oliver, Arn0ld, Costco, etc. IMO, any buyer claiming bunk on any of these products has no business talking trash if their eyeballing. You can't eyeball alrazolam folks. It's impossible.

And about this controversy drama, IMO there could be several alprazolam vendors and you'd have plenty of customers. Just like every other comodity on SR. Personally, I'd like to see MORE VARIETY pharma grade powders (or even high quality clandestine grade) available in personal quantities. I'd love some clonazepam, nitrazepam, ambien, tadalifil, tramadol, dexedrine, MUSCE RELAXERS, and many more. Variety sounds like a winning strategy and I'd love to see it. It's crazy that I had these connects myself direct from China over a decade ago (lost contact since), I don't even remember why or how despite being a nobody, yet raw pharms and such things severely lack as far as I can tell here on this global market place, which back then was unimaginable. And the Chinese markert greyer that ever. I'd love to see more raw pharms and less shitty RCs.


This as well, and also what quinone said bears repeating. A LOT.  The post that starts like this: "Just about everything you said there is correct and wow does it make you look ever the more fool."  Read it again, you confused little girl.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on January 01, 2013, 06:31 pm
I'm hitting up Arn0ld soon, I haven't heard a single complaint about him yet.

And notice they all keep pushing for us to buy from Arn0ld?
 
Could they BE any more obvious?  Fucking goons.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: xblackbladex on January 01, 2013, 06:39 pm
I think you need to relax a little bit I'm not recommending Arn0ld I'm just saying I'm giving him a try. I admit going to him could still be risky nonetheless. Quit the campaign.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on January 01, 2013, 11:18 pm
lol, man, you have no idea just how calm I am right now.

And me campaigning? Now you're just making me lol. Have you even read these threads?  Apparently not.
 
The more variety, the better, but slinging mud around with no valid proof is just low and pretty pathetic.
Have fun with your bullshit.   

God I hate communicating with people who can't lrn2basicfuckinglogic.
 
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: 10 on January 01, 2013, 11:32 pm
Fluffles - you're right. The more competition the better. Now whoever has the better competition will win. Not a hard concept.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on January 01, 2013, 11:44 pm
Fluffles - you're right. The more competition the better. Now whoever has the better competition will win. Not a hard concept.

For once, I agree with you. :P

Personally I hope both Oliver and Arn0ld are legit and can make enough to live happy, productive lives.  Then we all win. :)
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: LargeStewie on January 01, 2013, 11:54 pm
Another Oliver attack thread?  Christ on a stick dude...seriously, someone's out to get this guy.
I seriously can *not* believe there is this much drama over fucking alprazolam...Coke?  OK -- Heroin, Meth -- yeah...but fucking alprazolam?  Seriously...
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on January 02, 2013, 03:49 am
Another Oliver attack thread?  Christ on a stick dude...seriously, someone's out to get this guy.
I seriously can *not* believe there is this much drama over fucking alprazolam...Coke?  OK -- Heroin, Meth -- yeah...but fucking alprazolam?  Seriously...

LOL yea i was thinking the same . This topic doesnt seem to die down at all..
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on January 02, 2013, 03:28 pm
I hope the US makes another mistake like Castle Bravo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2I66dHbSRA

(15mt yield, should have been 4-6, they fucked up hard all cuz of I-7), and that Oliver, his second personality (you should seek help Oliver), Arn0ld, and everyone including (especially) myself is in the blast radius
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: xblackbladex on January 02, 2013, 08:49 pm
lol, man, you have no idea just how calm I am right now.

And me campaigning? Now you're just making me lol. Have you even read these threads?  Apparently not.
 
The more variety, the better, but slinging mud around with no valid proof is just low and pretty pathetic.
Have fun with your bullshit.   

God I hate communicating with people who can't lrn2basicfuckinglogic.

You're right this is all a big conspiracy against Oliver...
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Reds on January 11, 2013, 06:47 am
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

I have two alprazolam's here to compare side by side and the other one is definitely fake unfortunately (different vendor), and there is a marked difference in the consistency of the two.

I remember bringing up, in private with someone I think (cuz my order came with a bunch of crushed pills *shrug*, which I had to convince him SO hard that it didn't bother me at all, half the work in bustin em up was already done :D.  These were opiates, so I insufflate them, not benzo's, which you do not insufflate) just how easy it would be for someone to grind up bars, or for that matter any drug (oxycodone powder anyone?  Haven't seen it on the road,  but imagine it wouldn't be a difficult scam to pull off as long as their either OCs, or something like percs (which I should note would be particularly despicable because you'd be selling large quantities of APAP without the user ever knowing).

It's made me lose most hope in powdered pharmaceutical's even though legit ones are AWESOME.  I also had the vendor Winston ... something scam me out of a 2g diazepam (valium) powder order I had placed with him.  Fortunately I (as everyone should) stayed in escrow, had an overwhelming amount of evidence that this was most likely a scam and was subsequently given a 100% refund by SR resolutions quite promptly actually.  I dunno, it's bizarre, it seems this powdered pharm. market went from being a fuck my mother this is a god send to a full out scam with vendor's even wasting our time trying to prove that someone else stole his supply and is selling it to us, even though the only evidence he's asking for is if the guys signature (real written signature) proves he's a different man.  But he does NOTHING to try and prove that someone actually stole his supply lol.  So what if buddy isn't you, he's been serving member's of the road well and has as far as I know exemplary feedback. 

Least you could do is try and form some sort of argument on finding evidence that he stole from you if you want our pity or whatever the fuck it is you're trying to gain out of all this nonsense.

I hope we can turn this back around and have some of the great vendor's come round with supplies of powdered pharmaceuticals so that we don't have to deal with this ever increasing bullshit scamming that's coming from selling powdered pharms.

Lol. It has been way too long. But last I remember Oliver was on here and he had just stolen all of Googleyed's supply. What? 3 month ago? Don't you remember saying that Quinone? You kill me. You stick up for some guy you hate (probably because he gave you a free meal) and now he's the most legit Vendor on the market. Give me a break. This is fucking week. Maybe people need a little reminder on the search threads. Quinone was gung ho about how Oliver fucked Googleyed. No wonder I never come to this place. The road for my shit and that's it. Fucking lame ass drama on the forums. If I were a Buyer I would do everything opposite of what Quinone does. Ya I vended for quite some time and all you do is beg. Get a life - and some money. Really it is pathetic how you beg for another bag, or another few pills, etc. God I'm so glad I don't Vend anymore.

Oh I'm sure you'll have some amazing comeback. Cause you're a neuroscientist right? That's why you can't even tell if a product is what it's supposed to be. Fake. Oh know let me have it. I've fucking shaking. Plus I won't read it. Why did I get on the boards in the first place and read this lame as post. Total kiss ass.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: JustAnotherAsshole on January 11, 2013, 05:51 pm
Another Oliver attack thread?  Christ on a stick dude...seriously, someone's out to get this guy.
I seriously can *not* believe there is this much drama over fucking alprazolam...Coke?  OK -- Heroin, Meth -- yeah...but fucking alprazolam?  Seriously...

I'd have to agree. So far the guy has been perfectly good to me, and recently he offered to re-ship a lost delivery for free. Eagerly awaiting the next package.

It seems as though there's a handful (if that) of very aggressive and vocal people who are drumming this up.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: longissimus on January 11, 2013, 06:43 pm
I've only had bad experiences with Oliver. Haven't tried him since. I've read around that he's trying to make up for his bad service.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on January 12, 2013, 01:07 am
The weird thing is that ... some Oliver (I don't care who) was vending completely legit alprazolam at a time.  It's easy to tell because it's not completely a powder, it's more like a sticky, wet powder that is semi off of 'Ivory White'.

I have two alprazolam's here to compare side by side and the other one is definitely fake unfortunately (different vendor), and there is a marked difference in the consistency of the two.

I remember bringing up, in private with someone I think (cuz my order came with a bunch of crushed pills *shrug*, which I had to convince him SO hard that it didn't bother me at all, half the work in bustin em up was already done :D.  These were opiates, so I insufflate them, not benzo's, which you do not insufflate) just how easy it would be for someone to grind up bars, or for that matter any drug (oxycodone powder anyone?  Haven't seen it on the road,  but imagine it wouldn't be a difficult scam to pull off as long as their either OCs, or something like percs (which I should note would be particularly despicable because you'd be selling large quantities of APAP without the user ever knowing).

It's made me lose most hope in powdered pharmaceutical's even though legit ones are AWESOME.  I also had the vendor Winston ... something scam me out of a 2g diazepam (valium) powder order I had placed with him.  Fortunately I (as everyone should) stayed in escrow, had an overwhelming amount of evidence that this was most likely a scam and was subsequently given a 100% refund by SR resolutions quite promptly actually.  I dunno, it's bizarre, it seems this powdered pharm. market went from being a fuck my mother this is a god send to a full out scam with vendor's even wasting our time trying to prove that someone else stole his supply and is selling it to us, even though the only evidence he's asking for is if the guys signature (real written signature) proves he's a different man.  But he does NOTHING to try and prove that someone actually stole his supply lol.  So what if buddy isn't you, he's been serving member's of the road well and has as far as I know exemplary feedback. 

Least you could do is try and form some sort of argument on finding evidence that he stole from you if you want our pity or whatever the fuck it is you're trying to gain out of all this nonsense.

I hope we can turn this back around and have some of the great vendor's come round with supplies of powdered pharmaceuticals so that we don't have to deal with this ever increasing bullshit scamming that's coming from selling powdered pharms.

Lol. It has been way too long. But last I remember Oliver was on here and he had just stolen all of Googleyed's supply. What? 3 month ago? Don't you remember saying that Quinone? You kill me. You stick up for some guy you hate (probably because he gave you a free meal) and now he's the most legit Vendor on the market. Give me a break. This is fucking week. Maybe people need a little reminder on the search threads. Quinone was gung ho about how Oliver fucked Googleyed. No wonder I never come to this place. The road for my shit and that's it. Fucking lame ass drama on the forums. If I were a Buyer I would do everything opposite of what Quinone does. Ya I vended for quite some time and all you do is beg. Get a life - and some money. Really it is pathetic how you beg for another bag, or another few pills, etc. God I'm so glad I don't Vend anymore.

Oh I'm sure you'll have some amazing comeback. Cause you're a neuroscientist right? That's why you can't even tell if a product is what it's supposed to be. Fake. Oh know let me have it. I've fucking shaking. Plus I won't read it. Why did I get on the boards in the first place and read this lame as post. Total kiss ass.

LOL, I have an enemy now it seems !!!  Winston maybe?  Sorry winston that escrow protect's buyers from you.  Or maybe you're just Oliver and pissed I just asked you for an order yesterday (to which Oliver has not yet responded), strange timing that some prick with a 1 post shill account named as Reds would roll around and try and rip me apart the day after I asked Oliver to place an order

My 'begging' btw Oliver was to ask you to make an exception for me on your 'all International buyer's must FE' that I not be required to FE because I have 105/05% buyer stats and am no more a risk then your domestic buyer's.  So sorry for not wanting to FE ... cuz ya know FEing is how pretty much everyone who comes here complaining about getting fucked in the first place).  Should grow some balls and post under your real name if you wanna sling mud.

I didn't say Oliver stole from GE, Limetless said that.  Are/were you too fucked up to recognize the difference between people's forum handles?   I said that there was concern going around that Oliver had stolen from GE, concern that was being discussed in the Vendor Roundtable, where the thread still exists.  GE himself was concerned or even believed (can't recall) that Oliver had stolen his product at the time (and possibly still thinks that).  I was just reverberating information being discussed that wasn't getting enough attention so that other members of this forum would become aware (forgive me for hating theives). Get your fact's straight bud.

I don't hate Oliver, I hate thieves, and there were rumors going around at the time about theivery, never said I thought Oliver stole from GE with certainty, how could I do that with no evidence lol?  I echoed the RUMOR that this was the case my friend.

If I wanted 'free meals', I would have taken FartBomber up on his random offer to send me a free 1/4g of MDMA when I never asked for such a thing, and was an offer which I declined, feel free to go look for yourself in the MDMA review thread.  He was defending his product cuz I was/am pissed about the whole 84% purity non-sense and offered me a sample to prove to me I guess.   I didn't decline cuz I think his product is garbage (contrary his product looks like decent MDMA), which I actually defended him on.

If I 'stuck up' for Oliver, it's because the product I PURCHASED (was never given) from him was completely legit, whereas the other alprazolam from another vendor (not Arn0ld, this is before Arn0ld existed) was garbage, and reminiscent of crushing
up bars and selling them as a powder.   

It's funny ... the hatred when I complimented you (Oliver ... er Reds ... err some pussy who makes shill accounts to throw shit rumors around) on your price for your 5g listing of alprazolam.  Fuck me for complimenting people I guess. 

You are damned right I ordered from Oliver when he was getting very good feedback on his product and this order was placed with him at least a month after no evidence was produced that he stole from GE.  Like I said, I was just repeating the concerns several good people had that Oliver was a dirty thief.   If no evidence was presented a month later to prove this to be true after then the only conclusion to be made is that it was incorrect and he isn't a filthy thief.  When I wrote whatever posts I did, however, they were to convey AT THAT TIME, the concern of many, for which there's a damned several page thread about in the Vendor Roundtable.

The concerns became unsubstantiated, so I tried his product (I don't hold grudges yo) ... and then reported how GOOD his product was.  Damn the things you get for trying to educate people AND compliment the vendor for the quality of his product.

Too bad, so sad that Oliver was accused of stealing, but the fact is that he was accused by several  good people.  When nothing came of this, I treated him like he wasn't a thief because no proof had ever been presented to show that he was, but the forums member's needed to know about these accusations from trust-able people at the time.

To put it shortly, I fucking hate filthy thieving pieces of shit, several trust able people thought Oliver was one, and the forum's member's deserved to know this information.  There turned out never to be any evidence that he did steal from GE, so I treated him like an innocent man, just as I would anyone who was accused of something, but no evidence was ever provided that that person did what they were accused of.  Get it?  Good.

I've written concerns about alprazolam powder being sold as fake on here because alprazolam isn't a pure white... 'powdery' powder, it's a stickyish, off white powder and can't be poured like a normal powder, you gotta take like small clumps of it because it sticks together. 

This is a very important piece of information I think the forum deserves to know when buying their alprazolam if they wish to ascertain it's purity.  The other vendors alprazolam was a pure white, fluffy yet pourable powder, which is NOT what pure alprazolam looks like.  You'll note that I have the decency to not name that vendor either because there could be any number of reasons his product wasn't the correct consistency, but that grinding up bars and selling them as a powder seems like a good idea if you want to sell your supply of shit ONAX bars as a 'pure powder'.

MORAL:  Do your business with Arn0ld, because he's a kind man who doesn't come bitching to the forum's like this thread ....

wherein Oliver comes bitching for some sort of sympathy or something that fraud Oliver (which is likely just the normal Oliver trying to stir up business) stole 1 kilogram of his shit based on it being GIVEN to him based on a 3 month friendship.  Talk about fucking stupid Oliver.  Oliver/Reds = Good Product, piece of scum man with no balls that needs to shill his accusations against me.

No need for neuroscience to prove anything, you openly said you gave 1 kilogram alprazolam AND your vendor password to a friend of just 3 months ... and yet waste our time making a thread looking for some .... sympathy or something because you're suffering the consequences of the most retarted thing anybody could do (Openly hand over your entire supply and your vendor password to a stranger you've known for just 3 months).

If you want to come on the forums and shit all over your own face when trying to hurt me, at least have the ball's to make your hate statement's against me under your real forum account, and not a 1 post shill account Reds.

Thanks Arn0ld for your kindness and good service, i'd suggest the rest of you try him out, he's at least not a crazy fuck who gives away keys of alprazolam and his entire vendor profile to a stranger, nor comes on here as a shill piece of shit Reds to sling his shit against me into his own face (Oliver) :).

Seriously though, Arn0ld's a great vendor, and the only reason I requested an order from Oliver is because he admittedly does have extremely good prices on 5+ grams, it is quality alprazolam, he ships it fairly well, but his biggest downfall seems to be that he's a crazy fuck who makes threads asking for sympathy based on something he did to himself and has to create shill account's to make his accusations that he for some reason is still holding against me, regardless of my promoting his goods for quite some time.  Some piece of work you are Reds/Oliver

PS: Sorry guys, i'm just a very wordy guy, so my posts/msgs end up being ridiculously long lol, ask RxKing, took him a week to get the time to read my msg to him.  BTW RxKing is the best opiate/benzo vendor on here and one of the most honourable men i've had the pleasure to meet.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: Reds on January 12, 2013, 07:27 am
Nice. Why would I read a book. All I know is that if you search the forums you will see Quinone or AKA all the other forum names you have - and user accounts (I'd go in them but this isn't the place) is fucking scum. You beg for extra's talk shit - like 40 to 60 pills - and BOTH you and limitless talked shit. So fuck it. I know what you are and I thank God I can deal with real buyers instead of Winny assholes like yourself.

Fuck it I'm out. This place is like the freeway exit. Who wants a FREE handout?
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on January 12, 2013, 10:16 am
Nice. Why would I read a book. All I know is that if you search the forums you will see Quinone or AKA all the other forum names you have - and user accounts (I'd go in them but this isn't the place) is fucking scum. You beg for extra's talk shit - like 40 to 60 pills - and BOTH you and limitless talked shit. So fuck it. I know what you are and I thank God I can deal with real buyers instead of Winny assholes like yourself.

Fuck it I'm out. This place is like the freeway exit. Who wants a FREE handout?

k 1st why won't you admit who you are if you have such dirt on me?  Why use a shill account to try and tear good people down?  What reason have you for preventing us from knowing which user/vendor you are?

Here is complete transparency for you.

I have one shill account, the name is DigitalDream.  I use it when I have particularly embarrassing questions to ask, and it only has about 20 posts on it.  I do not know where you are getting all these other forum names that I supposedly have.  You'd be on your real account with your real identity if any of what you say is true, not a now 2 post shill account.

I have a buying record of 105/0.5% and i'm an International buyer.  I treat all vendors I do business with with complete respect and take the necessary precautions to maintain the buyer record I just told you I have.

Most of my post's here are to aid other user's in questions they have, or to correct completely incorrect information, because incorrect info spreads like wildfire amongst the drug underground.  For example the whole MDMA can only be 84% pure.  Well we don't buy MDMA, we buy MDMA.HCl, i've written enough posts explaining it not to need to do it again for you.

I've never asked anyone for 40-60 free pills, please do enlighten me either in public with which I have no problem, or in private if you wish to protect the vendor's identity.

I do ask vendors who ask me to FE early because i'm International if they can make an exception considering my buyer stat's indicate I am no more a risk then a domestic vendor.

I have on occasion offered to write a vendor a concise review on their product for a little bit more product .... 40-60 pills though, wtf?
Most of these situations being vendor's asking on the forum's for people to write them reviews

I have made friendships with some very good users/buyers/vendors on here, some of them being the top vendors and whatnot.  I don't expect them to come to this silly thread to my aid, but just off the top of my head I know that I get along swimmingly with googleyed, rxking and pharmville when they were around.  There are of course many other's but I don't have time to go looking through my msg logs on SR to prove to a 2 post shill account user my legitimacy and genuine concern and interest for the safety and dissemination of correct information to users here on the forums.

I sometimes go on long pointless chemistry related rants.  It comes with the territory of having become permanently disabled and no longer being able to practice the science I worked 8 years after high school to achieve a PhD in, and i've got a lot of time with very little else to do.

You keep evading my demand that you identify who you are, if you think there's any legitimacy to any of these hurtful and straight up lying accusations against me you'd identify who you are.  Instead you have decided to hide behind a 2 post shill account and lose all credibility as a result.

You clearly have some serious anger against me,  and there's only one user who comes to mind that would.  That user being winston...somethng, because he tried to steal money from me and was insistent that I FE, I was insistent that that would never happen.  After not replying to me, and then never replying to SR support either I was given a full refund for his little scam attempt against this 'International user he was making a great exception for because he only ships domestic'.  Again this would be much simpler if you'd grow a pair and admit who you are.

I don't even know what I am so how do you know who I am? lol, care to enlighten?  Still in my 30's day by day learn a little more about myself.

If searching my name reveals .. scum as you put it, why would you just repeatedly say i'm scum and not provide any examples, short of this 40-60 free pill fallacy you've somehow either come to believe or are just lying about.

You're clearly a user I caught red handed in a lie, extortion attempt, or otherwise destructive behavior against others on here, and you're responding just as a bitter child caught in his own mistake taking a hissy fit ... out on me.

I implore anyone to search my name on the forums, out of 1100 posts sure i've made some rude posts to users who I believed were scamming scum or just garbage (like MTLJOHN).  I state things very BLUNTLY when I have something to say, and those lacking the intelligence to comprehend what i'm defending would get as upset as you seem to be. 

I adnit, I have likely made a few inappropriate post's, we all have bad day's and good day's and i've taken my bad day's out in a thread/post which was inappropriate at the time, we all make mistakes, and for most of those mistakes I appoligized either in public within that thread, or to the user in private.  But here I am, with at least the balls to admit it, under my real account name, whereas you, some pissed off guy has to hide behind a 2 post shill account.

I have yes on several occasions made jovial jokes to BRAND NEW USERS with NO VENDOR ACCOUNT that i'll deal with them if they send me a few extra pills or whatever, damned right.  If you don't have a vendor's account you don't belong vending in the forums.  I've made jokes with user's asking for free product yes, but they were jokes because I never planned on purchasing from that user because their vendor account was too sketch for me.

If you had any truthfulness to your words whatsoever then you'd admit who you are.

I just realized ... you're likely Black Tuna Gang actually.  This vendor copy and pasted his previous client's address into his label printing app and shipped MY order to this user.  He came on once to admit this and then didn't log back in for day's to keep me apprised of the reshipment of an order I was expecting before Christmas.  His excuse is that 'he told me he wouldn't be online'.  Well hell, why don't I just tell my boss 'i'm not coming into work today because I want to go to the bar and get smashed', and then when you're reamed out the next day use the defense to your boss that I had told him I wasn't coming in because I didn't want to.  Informing a user you fucked over that your not going to be online doesn't justify you not being online, you should have taken responsibility for your clear mistake and made yourself available at least at some point within the period of 4 days that you didn't login to inform me if anything had even been shipped.  Then you had the audacity to tell me that you deserve nothing less then a 4/5 feedback.  Most user's who get screwed just leave a 1/5, yet I explained to you why I was going to be giving you a 3/5 and the exact two points for which I was docking you those two points.  Making such a monumental mistake as shipping a large order of drugs to a completely different user and then not taking any responsibility to help the customer you screwed over is deserving of even less then a 3/5, yet I told you I was doing so to meet neutral ground because I do not wish to destroy your business, but you don't fucking deserve 4/5 for delaying someone's order for 3-4 weeks, and not making yourself available whatsoever for this person to obtain any information whatsoever about your correction to your mistake.  Offering a 3/5 with minimal text in my feedback was a very generous gesture on my part, and you just don't get it.

Perhaps you aren't BTG Reds, but you don't have the ball's to tell me, the person you're throwing all these asinine accusations against who you actually are.  But the above situation would definitely fit the timeline for a shill piece of shit to come about throwing baseless shit about me.

Why am I even bothering to take time to respond to you?  Because I pride myself on my attempts to be an honest man, I seize opportunities when they avail themselves to me (which you are trying to describe as being a bad thing) and won't tolerate a pussy who can't even admit who they are trying to tear apart my persona.

I know i've spoken with googleyed and RxKing in enough depth that they both know i'm a stand up guy who fulfills his commitment's and does what he can to help other vendors out who may have misleading/incorrect or otherwise detrimental to their own account's information.  And the same goes for users who are acting way out of line and would prosper much better if they behaved better.  I don't expect either of you to come here to defend me in this silly thread and i'm even sorry for naming you, you're not part of this non-sense.

If you had even one iota of legitimacy or self-respect Reds, you wouldn't go about trying to tear people apart under a shill user account.  If i'm that evil and bother you that much, and if you were a grown adult, you'd step up and actually admit who you are.

I for one won't miss you leaving at all, you clearly have no dignity (you won't admit who you are yet say terrible shit about others), and don't belong as a corrosive force in a community that is in large part trying to support each other.  On that note, did you not say in your last post that you were out?  Why did you reply if you're out?  Get out if your out man.  It's the character you demonstrate that are detrimental and destructive to this forum, which used to be a great place actually.  Then we got shill 2 post Reds come along and sling shit at other's with no evidence to their corrosive claims, nor even the pair to admit who they even are.

"Fuck it I'm out."
Then goodbye sir
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: 10 on January 14, 2013, 06:08 am
Oliver is such a scammer it makes me sick. This should be a sticky! DON'T BUY FROM THIS SCAMMER. Cuts  his "Xanax Powder" - if you can call it that,  to the bone brink and then sends his items 2 weeks late. Get rid of this loser. All he's doing is taking good people's money cause he was such a good vendor for so long. Well for the last two months he's been bleeding everyone dry.

Also all you Oliver lovers get real. How about get some real Xanax. From Arnold, India, Asia or where ever the fuck. I guarantee it will be 20 times better than this fools.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on January 14, 2013, 09:36 am
Oliver is such a scammer it makes me sick. This should be a sticky! DON'T BUY FROM THIS SCAMMER. Cuts  his "Xanax Powder" - if you can call it that,  to the bone brink and then sends his items 2 weeks late. Get rid of this loser. All he's doing is taking good people's money cause he was such a good vendor for so long. Well for the last two months he's been bleeding everyone dry.

Also all you Oliver lovers get real. How about get some real Xanax. From Arnold, India, Asia or where ever the fuck. I guarantee it will be 20 times better than this fools.

Has anyone (else) made a purchase off of Oliver within the last few weeks that can corroborate this claim?

I know he was distributing very good quality Alprazolam about 2 months ago, but haven't done business with him since.

It would suck to hear that he's no longer vending the quality Alprazolam that he was and is cutting it as you suggest :(

At least there's a second vendor of powder Alprazolam if what you say is true (I hope it's not true though and his stuff still pure, uncut, clean).
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: longissimus on January 19, 2013, 05:00 pm
I made a purchase about a week after the thread was made. Can confirm I got complete crap from him. Bought the 1 gram bag. Didn't get high at all. He gave me a refund I switched to Arn0ld.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: quinone on January 20, 2013, 05:31 pm
I made a purchase about a week after the thread was made. Can confirm I got complete crap from him. Bought the 1 gram bag. Didn't get high at all. He gave me a refund I switched to Arn0ld.

Glad to hear  you got off Arn0ld, seems i've made the right choice.

It's unfortunate that Arn0ld and I are not on quite so good terms at the moment (he snaps and doesn't understand when you're asking him a question that you want that question answered, even if it's just one question, he'll respond about ... something else and not answer your simple question at all, very confusing.

Regardless, his product is pure as sunshine, not a single particle of any adulterant or anything has entered the lipophilic consistency of alprazolam, which particles do tend to do.  This show's that his product was kept (stored) well and is an examplary example of what QUALITY alpraozolam is.

He's just upset at me right now cuz I wrote him a 1page-2 page concise (and glowing .... go with Arn0ld people) review and he's not very happy that I gave him a 0/5 for forcing me to finalize early when every single one of his listings states he expects finalization within 36 hours of receiving (aka he will ship before making you pay), but he made me an exception to make me finalize early and I have buyer stat's of 105/0.5%  ... no reason to ask someone with those stats to FE.

O and also he insultingly and ofensively sent me $26 wotrth of BTC thinking I wanted the 0.18g short of the gram sent to me (and I do not want him to send me more for that 0.18g undercount). 
I wanted to address in my review how much product he sends to his clients) based on what was received from another order and being 0.82g our of 1.00g (massed on 3 scales) ... is of notable mention, though he thinks I just want $20 worth of alprazolam, which I am insulted by.

Doing the guy a review, I needed his response so that I could address the quantity sent vs. quantity expected, I didn't wan't money, was insulted, and instead of answering he just snapped on me, kind of bizarre.

At any rate my review which was quite concise is glowing and I would never hesitate to purchase from Arn0ld again.
I would just like answered the two very simple questions I had for him.

I've tried two batched of Oliverss.one was cut (it should ONLY clump up, adulterants change it's consistency quite noticeably and dramatically) the other was of high quility, but it was clear it was never stored in dessication, in a clean room, or anywhere near as devoid of particular matter as Arn0ld's.  Probably good stuff but lets just say throwing out some numbers Olivers = around 95% (perhaps as low as 90%) | Arn0lds = 99+ % with obvious care taken to it's storage and handling.

I'm not quite sure what my ... status is with Arn0ld at the moment, but if (and now WHEN, because even if I don't need more, at his quality I WANT to make another purchase of arnold's product more to dessicated and hold onto).

Short of being shorted by a substantial amount on an order whose privacy should not be discussed I would like more (more like 5, 10+ g) off him, so I hope that you can reply to me Arn0ld and that you didn't just blacklist me or something.

I passively diffused out the EtOH and roto-vaped the solution to ensure the quantity was correct to the ng scale, as well as writing you a 3-4 hour concise review, so I hope that we can come to terms and that you will vend to me again, and not ask me to FE (you've never asked anyone else, ONLY ME, ever).

As to Oliver, your last batch was quality,  but by far not the best kept of a lipophilic compound.  From the things i'm hearing now it's being described as a powder, which mean's it's been cut (SIGNIFIGANTLY), only a tiny tiny bit of powder will change the consistency radically.  I hope this not the case, but more reports will have to come in and you'll have to produce a HIGH RESOLUTION pic of your alprazolam showing only the tineiest bit of it to ascertain from looking at it if it has had adulterant's in it.

Currrently though I am quite impressed with Arn0lds product, and wish I was rich so I could go about buying like 5, 10, etc. g of it.  It is of exquisitely good quality Arn0ld, and anyone reading this .... buy from him, ignore the word drama, i'm talking science.  His is better, buy Arn0lds.  Show me high res pic of a grain of alprazolam Oliver and I will retract my statements, but I doubt yours is COMPLETELY devoid of particulate matter.

Way to go Arn0ld bringing the ppl what they want, just pls don't like black list me cuz im mad at you for not answering my questions and explaining a situational basis.  I really do like you and would like to continue business with you.
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: n0n00dz4u on January 20, 2013, 07:06 pm
He's a scammy scamster!
Title: Re: HOW IS OLIVER GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?
Post by: xblackbladex on January 20, 2013, 07:25 pm
LOL, it looks like i started a riot.